RX125 Preshow: Kamen Rider Ghost 09-10 Reactions and Questions

The deadline for submitting feedback for Ghost 09and 10 for -RX! 125 is Thursday December 17, 2015 2:00pm PST, but we welcome feedback anytime after that as well in our comments section, in or inbox or through Twitter or on Tumblr.

Hello everyone, this is Ammit here. I have some thoughts and feelings about Ghost this week. This show is so great and Imma bout to tell you why.

Goodness gracious me, this show is well made so far. There were some rough patches in the beginning, but for the last month Ghost has been on fire! Onari and Akari are both nestled comfortably in their grooves, no longer at risk of slipping out of them and spinning dangerously out of control until they come to a sudden stop imbedded in the viewer’s eyes, shins or guts. We know who all the players are and the roles they play, but now there are more threads running to far off places. These new threads sizzle and burn like fuses set to blow at any time or anywhere and we know this because we have only just noticed their presence. How long ago were these fuses lit? How much longer can they burn? Where will the cast be when they go off? What tectonic shifts will occur and how will they change the show?

I can’t wait to find out the answers to the above questions, but I would like to focus my thoughts on something that just hit me this week. We have already witnessed a big shift in who the main trio are in this show. Takeru, Akari and Onari started off as three people dealing with the Ganma’s existence and paranormal phenomena as the undecided, the skeptic and the believer. Akari and Onari each pulled at Takeru to join them on their side of the divide. Takeru decided to believe in what he experienced himself and remained open to all the outlandish possibilities. Onari and Akari have been affected by Takeru’s stance as well as the things they have observed and been involved with and the gap between them has closed somewhat. Onari trusts in Akari’s ability to discern through science, hidden realities of the Ganma and Akari is open to accepting that this madness is happening and doing everything she can to apply the scientific method to and design a means for her to interact with the Ganma through definite, repeatable methods. All of this happened by about episode 6 and so the apparent trajectory of Ghost taking on the issue of Faith V Science seems to have fallen away. Since then we’ve seen two other three-way relationships take focus to shape the narrative.

The two trios upon which the narrative seems to be hung in this portion of the show are that of the Ghost Hunter, the Scientist and the Traitor. There are two sets of characters who fill these roles, separated by the 10 year gap when they are actively serving in their roles. 10 years ago Ryu Tenkuuji with the assistance of Dr. Igarashi, his scientist friend and Saionji, who also seems to be a scientist, betrayed Ryu and Igarashi. They were researching the Monolith and through it trying to stop something inevitable and terrifying. Igarashi had the know-how to attack the issue, Ryu had the faith and put forth a great effort to see that it was stopped so that others would have a future and Saionji who had the power to help them, sought to meet his own ends and selfishly betrayed them.

10 years later another terrible inevitability is being faced, Takeru has 99 days to gather the 15 Eyecons to restore his life, Makoto likely has 99 days to save Kanon and a larger threat looms just off in the distance. Akari sees the days ticking away and is so concerned with her friend’s impending doom that she can’t see a way for Takeru to help save Kanon without giving up his own life. Akari is just on the cusp of discerning the monolith’s purpose working off of Igarashi’s work and can only do so much to save Takeru from Makoto’s malicious intent. Akari warns him, but without the power of a Rider or really strong Ganma or something else, she is as of yet unable to do anything but try to reason with him. Makoto is resolved to no longer trust anyone. Takeru offers to help Makoto, but he refuses, choosing to see himself at odds with his former friend. All along Makoto has advocated ignoring the pain of others and refusing to help them so that he could maintain his focus on saving his sister. Sometime before Makoto and Kanon went into the Ganma’s world, Ryu Tenkuuji told little Makoto that he should have the heart of a hero and open his mind’s eye to do whatever he can to ensure that the future thrives and that he can help others. We see that Makoto has forgotten that, like he forgot the closeness he shared with Takeru and Akari and how he forgets to take Kanon into consideration while working to save her.

The Tenkuujis seem to be these bearers of hope and light to those around them and selflessly give of themselves to support those they can and see that others will continue to be secure even when they aren’t. Ryu asked Igarashi to have faith in the next generation and Takeru was willing to give up the Robin Hood Eyecon that Mari would live. It feels like the show is over the hurdle of faith versus science, because we are here regardless of what started things and has moved on to looking at how we deal with the world we are in. Do we embrace those around us and seek to work together for a common goal or do we turn from others and seek to meet only our own ends at the expense of others? Takeru may be striving to collect the 15 Eyecons to resurrect himself, but along the way he refused to put himself ahead of others, saved their lives and is willing to make sure Kanon is revived before himself. Makoto is cold and hard and the very sister he is trying to save is protesting that she no longer knows him. He is wholly devoted to the single goal of saving Kanon and is losing himself and her in the process. Takeru is on the precipice of giving up his life for Kanon’s but in that is approaching his goal of letting his life burn brightly and is lauded by his friends for his intention. It seems that until Makoto opens his mind’s eye he cannot become a hero as Ryu asked of him, while Takeru and Akari are walking that path already. He really is the Traitor in this scenario. Let’s see if his connection to Kanon can bring him back from the edge of if he will be a lonely figure of spite like Saionji.

Anyway, enough of my thoughts. What do you think?

Are there other character trios in the show? What do they say? Am I right on the current thesis of the show?

The unKamenCrew wants to hear your thoughts, comments and questions on:

Kamen Rider Ghost 09- Towering! The Man of Devotion!

Kamen Rider Ghost 10- 15 Eyecons, Assembled!

Bones To Pick

What issues did you have with Ghost 09 and 10?

Greatest Woah-ments

What were some of your favorite thing in these episodes? Please keep it to no more than 3 Woah-ments for each episode.

On Eyecons

OE-1-Benkei-2

How much do you like the Benkei Eyecon?

Is Benkei the first Eyecon to have two different versions of the finisher?

Makoto's Other OE-3-Heroic Eyecons

Where do you think Makoto got those other Eyecons? Did he have to let people die to get them, like Takeru could have with Mari and the Robin Hood Eyecon?

Spectre's Treason-2

Javert says that Makoto acting for a personal reason is “treason”. What ties do you think Makoto has to Alan’s “family”, and to what degree do you think Alan is acting regarding Makoto? Is Alan covering for Makoto or does he really have his own agenda?

Forcing Perspective

FP-1-On Life Agency

Is Ghost sending mixed messages about the agency one has over their own life?

FP-2-No to Suicide

Is Ghost saying “no” to suicide with Takeru realizing that he is not the only one with the right to value his life?

FP-3-No to Life

What do you think about Kanon saying she doesn’t want to come back to life if Makoto will become a terrible person to make it happen?

FP-4-A

FP-4-B

FP-4-C

FP-4-E

The flashback to Ryu and Igarashi’s conversation in Ghost 09 made it look like they saw impending doom and Ryu had to assure Igarashi they could somehow stop it. Takeru has just over 3 weeks left until he becomes completely dead and unable to act in the world. Especially with his decision to save Kanon first, Takeru has to assure Akari that he will be able to save himself to. Do the Tenkuujis have blind faith or confidence and firm belief and with whom does it play better?

Generally

Do you have questions for us? Do you have any comments for us regarding Ghost?

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One thought on “RX125 Preshow: Kamen Rider Ghost 09-10 Reactions and Questions

  1. Kamen Rider Ghost is such an amazing show. And to think it is only 10 episodes in. It has delivered so much and promises so much more and I cannot wait to see how this all unfolds. I have not been this eager for anything in a while and it is just astounding how much they have already done in such a short time. We have established characters. Established backstories. Established rules and guides of the world it has built that it follows well. And everyone is so intertwined that I couldn’t imagine the show or see the show without anyone. Everyone has a purpose. It has been so long since Kamen Rider has been this on point. Since Fourze really. The only problem it seemingly has is the lack of female heroes represented by the eyecon spirits.

    Am I right on the current thesis of the show?

    – You are definitely right. Though I don’t believe the science vs faith portion is entirely over and solved. I have a feeling it may get more twisted in a sense. And that this Ganma royal family may take it to another level in a way. I am not entirely sure how but I just feel they may take that divide and use it to their advantage somehow.

    What issues did you have with Ghost 09 and 10?

    – Ryu Tenkuuji. While it is nice that he is a constant presence and he seems to be an amazing man and father. He is kind of one note. He is constantly shown saying the same thing over and over. And while his message is a great message, I would like to dig a little deeper into his character. Although I am not sure how to go about that without overusing him because his short flashback moments are just the right amount of time with him.

    Greatest Woah-ments! What were some of your favorite thing in these episodes?

    – Anytime Benkei was used. I love the fighting style and the affect it seemingly has on Takeru. Whenever he uses it his body language changes into a more strong and confident person. Though this is probably more related to Takeru becoming a stronger and more confident person himself.

    – Kanon’s will projecting an image of herself to stop Makoto from attacking. (Or it could possibly be Makoto subconsciously projecting her image as a means to stop himself and accept his sister’s wishes. But I like the idea of Kanon having a proactive ability so I am hoping for it being my initial thought.)

    How much do you like the Benkei Eyecon?

    – I love the powerful yet quick and graceful fighting style. The weapon is really sill though. Throwing a Spider/Lantern onto the end of a blade of a sword and calling it a hammer does not make it a hammer. But it gets the job done.

    Is Benkei the first Eyecon to have two different versions of the finisher?

    – Edison had the charged shot and an electrified Rider Kick.

    Where do you think Makoto got those other Eyecons? Did he have to let people die to get them, like Takeru could have with Mari and the Robin Hood Eyecon?

    – I don’t think so. If him looking up to Ryu when he was younger is anything to go by and wanting to follow in his footsteps… Then maybe he was taught the same technique as Takeru to unseal the spirits. Plus I believe Kanon would be far beyond worrying about him becoming a bad person just to revive her. She would probably have said something in more detail regarding him actively letting people die/killing them. Or he may be keeping this all from her. Which would be really sad.

    Javert says that Makoto acting for a personal reason is “treason”. What ties do you think Makoto has to Alan’s “family”, and to what degree do you think Alan is acting regarding Makoto? Is Alan covering for Makoto or does he really have his own agenda?

    – I think that once Makoto and Kanon were pulled into the Ganma world that Alan and his family maybe somewhat adopted them. Which is how they were able to survive in another dimension. But it was more for the sake of being a young Alan’s playthings or pets. So Alan cares for Makoto but in a very manipulating way in which he always feels superior or that he is his owner. Which is why I think Alan is so upset with Takeru influence over him. Makoto was Alan’s special friend/pet/plaything and he despises Takeru for stepping in on that. So he definitely has his own agenda but he also has a very weird soft spot involving Makoto.

    Is Ghost sending mixed messages about the agency one has over their own life? Is Ghost saying “no” to suicide with Takeru realizing that he is not the only one with the right to value his life?

    – I would like to think most things involving suicide would be saying “no” to suicide in some way or another. But wow is Ghost a show that makes you think(Which is great). That is all I can really say. It is such a complex situation that it;s hard to think and be on one side wholeheartedly without stepping into Kanon and Takeru’s shoes and having to weigh such heavy burdens and choices. I wouldn’t say it is all one mixed message given that both of their messages are clear given what they know and what they can actively do given their situation from their perspective.

    What do you think about Kanon saying she doesn’t want to come back to life if Makoto will become a terrible person to make it happen?

    – That she is such a caring and pure person that it hurts her that she is causing so much pain for others. And that is an amazing stance for such a young person to hold.

    Do the Tenkuujis have blind faith or confidence and firm belief and with whom does it play better?

    Ryu has blind faith in that the future is what should be thought about most. Working hard for a better tomorrow. It is blind faith but it is a faith that has led us as humans through time. And that was instilled in Takeru. To work hard and as best as he can to embody the spirit of a hero. But it is the backbone to his confidence and a firm belief.

    Do you have questions for us? Do you have any comments for us regarding Ghost?

    – All of my questions involved your theories on this royal Ganma family and how do you think they will play a bigger part in the story once the initial plot line presumably ends next episode. Also if you had to rank ghost among other Riders and their first batch of 10 or so episodes, where would it rank? And how well do you think it in comparison to other Riders set up it’s premise?

    It feels so good to care about a show again as much as I do Ghost.

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